At the time, were you aware of people being killed while at Abu Ghraib? One of them was the guy they called “The Iceman”.

Yeah, I heard about it. Actually, I was there the night the Iceman was killed. I went to Tier One and someone said this guy had been taken to the showers and they had the water running, and you could hear this guy just screaming bloody murder. It got to the point where it was so loud and unbearable that I went back to my room. And the next day when I came back there was this puddle of water outside the shower. And I asked, “What’s that from?” And they said, “Oh, its ice from keeping the body till they could transport him.” The Iceman was one of the “Ghost Detainees” that officially never existed.

Lynndie England is out of prison and has given her first interview to Stern. She asks how could Rumsfeld not have known what was happening at Abu Ghraib. She also says that there were “harsher pictures they had at the trial that the media decided not to expose.” The picture we get of her own life now, as a single mother of a child fathered by the man who was her co-accused and was condemned to ten years in prison, and who married England’s best friend at Abu Ghraib, another female soldier who was also among the accused, has all the hallmarks of a depressing trailerpark tragedy. England herself suffered no abuse as a prisoner. She says she was a celebrity in prison. The other inmates loved her. She says they were like “flies on shit.”

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